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Horses in Rodeo Runs

Sometimes your horse will feel less than perfect during a rodeo run.  Typically, the more you mess with him (pulling on him) the worse it feels.  So instead of pulling, try picking UP your rein hand slightly to support him & guide him so you don't loose time on your horse during a competition run.  Keep in mind, it ALWAYS feels worse than it looks, so don't over-react.

To help your horse work to the best of his potential, ride him in the arena before hand if possible.  Trot down the line where he'll run when the goat is staked.  Ride him into the fence behind the stake.  Show him where you want him to go.  Add incentives at that end of the arena- buddy horse, grain bucket so he'll be looking for that during a competition run.  If possible, park (on the outside) that end of the arena.  Do things that will encourage your horse to go that direction, so he'll want to work for you!


 

 

Horses that duck right (out)

It's easier to prevent a problem than fix one & one of the biggest goat horse problems is a horse that ducks away from you while stepping off. It's time consuming, dangerous & worse of all; a total confidence BUSTER.

To PREVENT:

#1) I make things easy for my horse in practice.  Bucket of grain at the end of the arena every time I practice with him or a buddy horse & I practice in the direction my horse naturally wants to go.  (most often towards outgate, but sometimes don't matter if there's a grain bucket!) NEVER let any other horses be tied to the right, temping your horse to wander to them. I like to practice with an empty arena with the exception of the buddy horse if needed. You're building habits in your horse in the practice pen; so why not make it easy to build good habits?

#2) When stepping off & NOT tying the goat I LEAD my horse by with my right hand coming off the saddle horn & getting his reins.  I NEVER allow my horse to wander to the end by himself if I'm not tying the goat.  I do this prior to the rodeo in the arena if possible before I compete, so my horse knows where to go. I also tie his traveling buddy at the other end &/or a grain bucket, so he'll look for those during competition & stay straight.   If I'm running him down hard in the practice pen & stepping off fast, I really need to kick it into gear to keep up with my horse & get the reins to prevent him from starting a bad habit- you'll be surprised how fast you can run when you aren't preparing yourself to tie a goat!

To FIX:

#1) Bad habits are learned.  Don't expect your horse to break his bad habit in a day- people can't why should a horse? Worse thing to do is loose your cool, get after your horse & give him more reason to ditch you next time!

#2) I do a lot of ride bys

#3) Then I'll do lots of frog bys - sliding right foot to his rump & balancing myself with a BENT left knee & keeping my left hand up for support on the reins, pushing back on the saddle horn with my right for balance.

#4) Then I'll do a lot of hip bys- Slide to the frog position first then slide my right hip into the left fender of my saddle.  Keep my left knee bent, holding my body close with my right hand & keeping my left hand up for support on the reins.

#5) Then I'll do a lot of lead bys. I'll frog for a stride, hip for a stride & then step down & lead my horse by.  I do steps 2 -5 at all paces- don't speed up until it's getting better & then slow it down some when it gets worse. I'll mix it up where I step off; sometimes really early, sometimes really late.  I also do steps 2 - 5 when starting a goat horse.  Sometimes you have to make more training runs that practice runs, so don't get frustrated if you aren't tying the goat off your horse every trip down the arena.

 

Some horses may start leaving because they get sore.  Get him checked out with your vet & see what you can do to make him more comfortable while performing.

Changing saddles, saddle pads sometimes can help.  I don't like practicing a whole lot on my 'good' horses once they know their job, especially during the rodeo season.  At the most I'd practice every other day on them, making practice sessions short, sweet & easy on my horses.  If I keep it simple & fun for my horse, it's surprising how fast I can have a good goat horse that wants to work.

 

Some horses need support from your left hand/reins while stepping off.  Doing steps 2-5 above will help you learn how to ride your horse while dismounting.  Every horse is different.

 

I am not opposed to blinders over the right eye.  When it comes down to it & you need every run to count for points/money/standings/championships; it's hard to train & compete in the rodeo arena with 100% confidence that you need.  An easy way to make a blinder is to take a fly mask, cut out the left side for clear visibility & paste dark/heavy material over the right side to block your horse's vision to the right.  Fly masks are easy to put on & take off; go over a headstall & tie down with not problem & are available almost everywhere.  I don't want my horse to get too comfortable with the blinder, so I don't put it on until directly before my run.  You will need to practice with it several times so you know how your horse will react.  Some horses may come in front of you; if this happens repeatedly, cut away some of the fly mask on the right side so the horse can see forward but not to the side or back. Some horses may come in front a time or two until they get a little more comfortable with it.  I NEVER want to cover the left eye- because then your horse can't see YOU!!  Too dangerous!


Question:

I am starting a new horse for goat tying and wondering if you have any tips or steps that I should follow in training him.  I would appreciate any information that you can share with me.  Thank you.  Dacia Bergeleen

If you have an arena this is easy- start with riding him down the fence at a walk & swing out in the frog position.  If he stops encourage him to move forward again, when he does step down & lead him forward.  They usually will stop again as you lower yourself down, but don't worry because leading him forward will help him stay moving as you add speed.   If  he doesn't worry about this, speed up to a trot.  Get him to where he can trot & carry you in the frog position with out slowing down much & he stays moving as you step off.  When he stays moving easily at a trot, then go ahead and add more speed.  This will be over a week or so period of time, depending on your horse. 
The shorter the sessions, the better for him.  Keep him interested by not doing too much. Quit for the session when he does a couple good ones.  Give him credit for small improvements!
As he gets comfortable with you stepping off of him start pushing him to go a little faster.  When you get to where you're doing rodeo paced runs down the fence & stepping off then add a goat.  If I have a helper, I stake the goat about 10 feet off the fence & have the helper hold the goat until I get there, so it doesn't run back into the fence.  Start with riding him by until he doesn't look at the goat anymore, then go to leading him by- trotting & slow loping.  Have a grain bucket or a buddy horse at the end of the arena so he knows where to run to after he gets by the goat.  As he leads by easy & finds his reward (friend or grain) go ahead and start stepping off & tying the goat- again have the helper hold the goat until you get there so it can't run in front of the horse- or even lead the goat off to the left some to give your horse more room to run by depending on how your horse is working.  Gradually add speed until you are going rodeo run pace- again this will take several weeks, depending on your horse.  When he can go fast, slow down for you to step off &  he runs straight to the end of the arena, then you can gradually move the goat farter off the fence- maybe 20 feet for one practice session and if he stays straight & it goes well, keep moving the goat out to the middle of the arena more.  If at any time your horse doesn't work- frog or lead him by for a few runs to help straighten him out.  If you need to move the goat back closer to the fence go ahead, this may allow you to ty the goat more so you get some practice in as well.  Just pay attention to how your horse is working & adjust what you are doing from there.  Frogging & leading him by will help keep him straight & to the end of the arena.

 

 


Rectangular Callout: Right elbow bent & close to body; keeps you close to horse.
Left hand on reins for control

Rectangular Callout: Great bend in left knee! BALANCE!

Rectangular Callout: Reaching w/ right leg

Rectangular Callout: Hips under body, pointing towards goat, not rotating towards horse

Rectangular Callout: Shoulders back

Rectangular Callout: Eyes up looking @ goat
  • Eyes/head up- looking at the goat.

  • Shoulders back, hips under

  • Right leg reaching up & under body to keep feet in front of you when you land

  • Left knee bent stabilizing & lowering body to the ground  CRUCIAL!

  • Right elbow bent to keep close to horse

  • Left hand still on reins for control of horse.

     


 

When dismounting off your horse, it's important to reach with your right leg, up & underneath yourself so it lands by your horse's shoulders.  You should land heel-toe; not flat footed, straight down by your horse's back cinch.  If you reach up & under yourself, you will be putting your feet in front of you, which will help you step off faster & keep your feet.  It is important that you stay close to your horse with your upper body & don't let your body get to far forward while you are reaching with your legs. Your body should stay back by the saddle not fall forward to the shoulders of your horse.  By staying close & almost 'back' with your body (not legs) it will help your horse stay with you longer.  This is particularly important on horses that tend to fade (or veer) away from you while you are stepping off. It will almost feel like you are falling on your butt, but you won't as your horse will keep moving forward, bringing your upper body "level" with your feet.  

 


 

 Working on confidence in getting off your horse fast.

 

The fear of falling while dismounting is one of the most common 'fears' in goat tying.  It's embarrassing and sometimes painful. But most of the time, the mental effects of falling last far longer than the physical.  Learning how to get off while going fast is like anything else- it takes practice and if you have good technique your chances of success are increased. 

While there are several important factors to remember while getting off to help keep your feet, I like to think of one- push on the horn.  All to often, goat tyers anticipate getting off & lean, (either to the left or over their horse) which is causing the rider to be off balance and often leads to horses ducking away from the goat tyer. 

When working on speed, I like to get off along the fence of the arena.  That way the horse has got to go straight and you have nothing else to think about but getting off.  Image a spot down the arena (close to the fence) where the goat would be staked.  Tell yourself that you have got to be OFF & IN CONTROL by that spot.  Let your horse run, check & step off.  Make sure you allow plenty of room before the corner of the arena, so that your horse isn't forced to make a turn into you. Keep control of your horse even after you are on the ground and run a ways with him to encourage him to stay with you.

 

Few points to remember

1. Push on the horn

2. Keep your eyes/head up

3. Reach underneath yourself with your right leg & STEP off (don't jump).  Your right foot/leg should land by your horse's shoulders.

4. Push your left arm out to the side after both feet are on the ground.

5. Don't let your right hand hang onto the horn after you step off. (May cause your horse to duck)

6. The fastest way to slow yourself down & get control is to BEND YOUR KNEES after landing.  This will really drive your butt under you & help you get low.

7. Keep your feet moving!!

8. BELIEVE you can do it!  

 


 

 

 

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